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    single_msor
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    OK — have been messing about with this thing for maybe a few months now and it's basically bookmarked at this point, so figured I'd write something up since a mate asked me the other day. I'm in the UK, generally bet football and racing, a fiver here and there, for context.

    What got me on it was genuinely a bit daft — I could never get my head round what an ew return actually was when the place terms changed. I'd just eyeball it and then be surprised. These days I punch the numbers in first, every time, even a straight one-selection punt.

    Their single bet calculator is the bit I open most — you drop in the price and your stake and it shows returns straight away, fractional or decimal, doesn't matter. Same tool covers the multiples — acca and treble returns, a lucky 15, yankees, and that's where I always mess it up. If you fancy a poke about, it's here

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    — free, no signup.

    The thing that actually made a difference is the more serious tools. They've got an probability thing that shows the overround, plus a kelly criterion tool — I use half kelly because full kelly is a quick route to a dead bankroll. The dutch tool is decent when I'm covering two or three runners.

    It's not perfect mind. The interface looks very functional, let's say — not much flash, it's clearly function over form. On my phone it works although the acca grid make you pinch and zoom. Also there's no proper app, it's a website and that's it — slight shame just flagging it.

    So yeah. Doesn't cost anything, no ads shoved in your face, does the job. If anyone still adds it up in their head, have a look — saves me a fair few arguments with the bookie.

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    single_mtpr
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    OK — been on this thing for something like five months now and it's basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I'd say something since a mate asked me the other day. Am in the UK, mostly stick to footie and the horses, a fiver here and there, just so you know where I'm coming from.

    The reason I started using it was honestly a bit daft — I couldn't ever figure out what an ew return actually came to when the place terms changed. I'd just wing it and then be surprised. Now type the odds in before every slip, even a straight one-selection punt.

    The single bet calculator tool is the bit I use most — type in your stake, the odds and it shows the return instantly, fractions or decimals. Same tool covers the multiples — acca and treble returns, a lucky 15, a yankee, honestly that's where most people I know lose track. Have a go yourself, it lives at

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    and it's free with no account nonsense.

    The thing that genuinely made a difference is the nerdier tools. The odds-to-probability converter and it makes obvious the overround, and there's the kelly tool — I run quarter kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. Dutching calculator is decent for when I'm covering two or three runners.

    It's not perfect mind. Its design is very functional, let's say — no flash, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. Phone-wise it works though the bigger tables are a squeeze. There's no proper app, it's browser only — slight shame just flagging it.

    Anyway. Costs nowt, not plastered in adverts, does the job. If anyone honestly does the maths on paper, have a look — saved me a fair few dumb bets I'd have regretted.

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